21:10: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok for the order, im starting tkaing notes from mnow on...
21:10: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I also got another doctor joining, but since she is on Pacific time, it's a bit early for her still
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ooh, whats her name?
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: the enfs name was Barzyc right?
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Aye.. Barzyc
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Hi lux!
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: Hello
21:11: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The other doctor is Kitrell
21:12: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Hey Lux :) looking good..
21:12: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: I try
21:12: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: you have been doing well i see, congratulation!
21:12: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: thanks
21:12: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Ok, any thing before we call in dragonox?
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I could list what I had in mind
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe, Im see dubbel
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: has anyone seen Xoritus or DrTrojan lately?
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: thats good, all could say what they wan tto talk about...
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: nope
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Havent seen neither of those guys either, Lux
21:13: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: either
21:14: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: here comes naimah
21:14: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: animah
21:14: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: On my agenda, I thought I'd dwell on our ranking system and how to yield a better use of it, and I also wanted to scrutinize the different membership levels
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: anything else elect?
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: back
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Not really.. I tend to make one little thing really huge once I get started
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: Hi Ani!!!
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Hello Animah :)
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: lol
21:15: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe
21:16: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i have some thoughts about a guild bot i would like to share and one thing about those 10 questiuoins...
21:16: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Since I know what Dragonax wants, I leave it up to you to decide what goes first :)
21:16: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i think we can handle dragonax quite quickly...
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: or i hope soo... the  meeting i hade with him was quite short...
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I had a small tought about tax, some things about ranking.... and a thousend of other small things, but we will leave them to alater date
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: for the 10 questions i think we should respond as a guild more than individuality it will be better for the impact of the question and it help the HH to be known by more ppl
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ah yea.. you reminded me. I was gonna mention taxes too
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: also a thought about "Happenings"
21:17: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok
21:18: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: But anyway.. Poff.. You run this circus. Make it do something cool
21:18: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: :-)
21:18: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe..... you make it sound so easy...... lol
21:18: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok shall i call dragonax?
21:18: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: or anymore things to discuss
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: We'll take the rest as we go. Just get Ax so we can get started
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok calling him
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: well we should heard what dragonax wnat to say to us and then we wil pursue the meeting
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: First, I think I will take my thing about ranking....... I know electronix has more to say about the subject, but I will cut in first......
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: You're too slow, Poff ;) sit down
21:19: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: guess we have to obey the president...
21:20: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Two things, we need more people to be able to invite new members....and
21:21: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ..... I and the rest of the advisors think that we have a member that will be an eccelent advisor.....
21:21: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Are you standing up Electronix4 , its harsd to see:-)
21:21: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: here they are
21:22: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Heh.. thanks ;) You might wanna try losing that.. shade lookie thingie covering your eyes
21:22: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I
21:22: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe
21:22: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Could you ask them to wait 30 sec team
21:23: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Im proud to promote Electronix4 to advisor of the Healing Hands
21:23: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: Congratulation
21:23: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Thanks.. Honored :)
21:23: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: grats!
21:37: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: we can use this channel if we want to discuss something in silence...
21:37: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: good cause I don't understand this at all..
21:38: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I'll leave all the decision-making around this up to you. My only opinion is that, no.. I wouldn't form a formal alliance with a clan guils, but yes.. I would welcome Anartech to contact us if they do need doctors at some point
21:39: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes no alliance, that i have told dragonos
21:39: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: personally I don't like the  idea of whatever ,in a way it seems to me like if all this did happen.. and if I were between one of them who was say at 50% and an Omni at 20% ..they would expect my help first.. and I can  not do that
21:40: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: so they fully understand that even if this all went down our loyalties are to those in the most need first
21:40: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: in a fight between the sides we decide who to heal, no agreements or whatever can come in between
21:40: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: thats exactley as i see it lux
21:40: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Exactly, Lux. Missions are ok to join in on, but in field PvP combat it would be very different
21:40: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: right
21:41: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: which after all this is done..remind me that I have a question about that
21:41: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: cause I'll foret
21:41: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: forget even
21:41: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I'll try and remember that..
21:41: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: about what?
21:42: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: its not important ..it can wait ..I don't want to be rude to the guest
21:48: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: no one against?
21:48: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: since it stay in the bond of the agreement if have no objection
21:50: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: If helping out with "HH" activities, this will become more important
21:50: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hmmm vrong ch
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hmm a neutral doc.... who will recruit her?
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: hihi... we can discuss that later...
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The guy who asks «who will recruit her» first
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: lol
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: lol
21:55: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: niark niark niark you sai it well electronix :)
21:59: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: but don t misunderstand it it s not an obligation it just that it will be really apreciate :)
22:02: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: This is taking forever :) start wrapping this up, poff
22:02: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ok
22:04: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: maybe we should propose them some adventageous price on emergency surgery kit or some special doc thinks to make the equipment thing go smoothly ?
22:06: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: could we have team as our contact?
22:06: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: can u do a tell to me?
22:06: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: oups
22:06: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i would rather see that some other advisor takes on that respoonsibility
22:06: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: good lucj to you and stay safe
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: thanks\
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: :-)
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: dam ch, talking in the wrong one all the time......
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: tss ;à
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok shall we go on?
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Aye
22:07: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i have a small list here...
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ok
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: so ranking i guess is next
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: lease go on
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: My cue?
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Yes it is.... electronix?
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Okay.. From what I remember, we have ..5.. ranks, right?
22:08: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Yes
22:09: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ok.. The way I would arrange things would be in a way where rank doesn't have anything to do with how long you have been a Hand - not even how cool you are
22:10: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: sounds good
22:10: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Starting on the bottom - Applicants. Applicants should have a 1 or 2 week trial period to show their commitment and quality if you like
22:10: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: basic stuff
22:10: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: thats how it owrks today in practice even if its not formally said...
22:11: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Members - The next step up would be to be promoted to a member. Members would have no responisibilities other than being doctors in the spirit of the Hands - no questions asked
22:11: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Veterans - These wonderful people would be veterans from their own free will. Main responisibility would be to train and advice applicants in particular
22:12: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: aah sounds good
22:12: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Good idea
22:12: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Being that I suggest this to be a voluntary job means that they would also choose to be demoted to members if this job becomes too much
22:13: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: As to advisors, that kind of blurs into the job of being a veteran, but these people would have an extra task..
22:13: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes
22:14: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Not just everyone is suited to become a member of the Hands, and it would be the job and responsibility of the advisor to weed out any unusable candidates - preferrable before inviting a doctor or enforcer to join
22:15: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Other than that, the advisor should have the same role as the veteran in commiting to training applicants and members
22:15: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i think that would be the job of the veterans too
22:16: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Indeed, but the advisor takes responsibility for the people he/she invites, and has to deal with the unpleasantries if that person turns out to be a mistake
22:16: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: there are other stuff also like runnning events, keep the website up and runnig
22:16: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I'm getting to that too :)
22:16: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: The thought we had about advisors, where to do the things team just said and keep eq, have formal contacts whith other guilds etc
22:16: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: that could be the backside of the glorious president...
22:17: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: We are not really that big.. I would say that is the president's job, but I'll get there in a moment
22:17: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Advisors - just like veterans - would volunteer to this kind of work, and hence choose to be demoted to members if they should wish so
22:18: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: (Keep in mind, these are just ideas as I see them - we can tweak afterwards)
22:18: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: of course and it is good to discuss it
22:19: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: For veterans and advisors, there should be some kind of limitation - not predefined, but limited by these people themselves
22:20: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: No advisor or veteran should take on inviting and/or training a new member unless he/she is able to follow up and train this person
22:20: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: So, there should be a suggested limit of 5 trainees for each veteran or advisor
22:20: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: (for example)
22:20: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: should a member be able to ask to become a advisor/veteran if others in the guild dont think so...
22:20: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I think yes..
22:21: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: and automaticly be one?
22:21: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: It would be a continuous evaluation by the advisors and the prez whether or not this person is doing a good enough a job
22:21: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ... or promoted....
22:21: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes i think so too
22:22: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Well, advisors can promote members to veterans. Further promotions would require recommendations to the president
22:22: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i think we should drop the term promoted and promotion if we want to carry this on...
22:22: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: only the pres can promote aboce applicant
22:22: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: (there are some limitations in the system)
22:22: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: or i think so atelasre
22:23: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: If I were to give the go-ahead for Lux to become an advisor, I would be putting my head on the block, so I would have to be sure in my case
22:23: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: It says in the help that you can promote a person to one level below yourself, so I should be able to promote ppl to veterans
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: But I dunno
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I'm just trying to put things into place
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I have a suggestion, as the time is running along........
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: maybe it is, i have not tried
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i think the suggestion sounds good
22:24: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The rest, however, falls on the president. Webpage updates.. events.. guild relationships, etc.. Delegations
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Shoot, poff
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Could we have this as a "nice" topic in the forum?
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: there is a problem with the last thig
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: thing
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: the website
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think taht is an eccelent place to discuss things like this......
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Not really, Team.. HE would tell YOU to do the job. He's the president, remember? ;)
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: at the moment I am the only one who can change/update etc
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe
22:25: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: hihi
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I guess we could take a shot at this in the forum
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I think it would fit quite nice there...
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I also think this is a good idea, but I would like have it viewed by all.....
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: So, for those of you who were able to keep up - that is my suggestion
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Yea..
22:26: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: and there are still quite a few things on the list
22:27: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Dont forget Lux has something..
22:27: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: proceed
22:27: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: its on the list
22:27: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: .... also,  I have tried a few times to have other people than me or team to orgaize some event.... and still..... none
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: That's the beauty of volunteer work, pres :) Don't expect me to rally a big march unless I want to do it beforehand
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Shall we move on?
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Yea.. let's
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: tax
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: next  thing i  guess is tax hten...
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: currently the tax is 1 cr
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: how dos tax really work exactly ?
22:28: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: can you define tax in %?
22:29: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I dont know exactly how it works, but I think it takes 1 cr /2h gmeplay
22:29: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: No, No %
22:29: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I was hoping we could set a 10-15% tax on income
22:29: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: which is stupid...
22:29: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: not possible for the moment
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Yea, that is a pretty messed up tax system
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: but you can make donations......
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: because 1000 cr is not much for me but would ruine a low level
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: exactly
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: but even with only 1 cr, the bank amount is rising.....
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: but maybe we should set it high and have repays at the meetings, lowest level get most:-)
22:30: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think there is two ways, 
22:31: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: not much though....
22:31: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: 1 a small tax, and donations
22:31: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: 2 only donations
22:31: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Thinking..
22:31: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: we could have a donation raise...
22:32: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The way I have done so far is to pay for things as they come up..
22:32: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i have already donated the majority of our fundings, 200k so come on and beat me:-)
22:32: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think tax (a small one) is good, even with only a small amout, you will give to the org
22:32: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Kinda easier that way
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I dont meen a big tax...... not over 100cr
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Natural question.. what will the tax money be used for?
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: that is a good question...
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: who does it go to or where?
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe.... pile up for worse days.....
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: the prez
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff:    /org bank
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Heh.. the days only get better - not worse :)
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: hes the only one that can withdraw
22:33: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I hope that they soon will fix the guild housing, and the advantage system
22:34: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I just fear that some people might feel a sense of favoritism if someone gets to spend a substantial amount of the tax money
22:34: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: .... and then I dont think we will have any trobble to spend money
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: as these things will not happen for another 2 months i think we should keep it really low, max 10cr
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: yupp
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Well, I guess we could try setting the tax rate to 10cr just to see how it affects the bank account
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: im mainly thinking of the low levels...
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: should we test?
22:35: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: can u exept low lvels?
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: all agree to 10cr?
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: See you around, Zork
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ok Cya
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: you mean not to tax them?
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I am ok with 10cr.. I always give my new trainees a few thousand credits to get started
22:36: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: we could take only 5
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: so they shoudl be ok
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: but one is to little to test the system
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: ok by me
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: we should allocate somme founds to the training of newbies
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: 10 is fine
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I guess you can request that from poff
22:37: [The Healing Hands] Zork22: because you can afford to give your trainne a few thousand but I can t
22:38: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: thats why i donated money
22:38: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: better to make it 7 or 9. then we will see odd numbers, and all who depost should always only pput on even 100
22:38: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ok.. how about if we say that advisors should never have less than 50000 credits to spend?
22:38: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: do whatever you feel for
22:39: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: yes, just send me a tell, and i will deliver the money
22:39: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: then we need to raise the tax
22:40: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ok.. next issue?
22:40: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: or you mean just if they get very poor they can request some extra money 
22:40: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok next is the 10 qs
22:40: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: If you are in money trouble, tell poff - or me
22:41: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I just wanted to inform people that Rypht is compiling the list from what has been posted on the Neutral forum as of friday this week
22:41: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: So if you got some important issue that has not been addressed there make a reply
22:41: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I had a very elaborate thought about those 10 questions and neutrality a few days ago - much too elaborate
22:42: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I suggest that all that are intrested look into the Neutral forum
22:42: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: (link on our page)
22:42: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok, somethign you want to share here and now or keep secret?
22:43: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: or we go on to next issue
22:43: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: If we are not gonna discuss those 10 issues any more, I think we might as well move on
22:43: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: that is whatever Lux wanted to say
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Tetradoc: eheh i'm back here
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Tetradoc: hi all
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Lux?
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Hello Tetra
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: hi Tetra
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: all I wanted to say was since learning exactly what it means to see.. Rookie or Freshman with someone..
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: hi
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ooh
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: I think even  though it goes against what I believe in..
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: That meeans they have killed people
22:44: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: I really feel no desire to heal these people
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: they make me ill quite honestly
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Well, I had an accident with that about 30 levels ago
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Freshman I belive you get after 10 kills
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Yea.. 10 I think
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: and rookie 30
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Everyone here will be attacked sometime
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes its an interesting issue
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: It sucks, but it is gonna happen
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: So my question being ..if I was doing random healings ..and I kinda happen to overlook one of them..
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I have been attacked many times, and usually, I die
22:45: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I know I have healed Rookies
22:46: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Most of the time I get attacked, I run or die
22:46: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Lux - depends on why they got their title
22:46: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: And I have teamed with them as well but I have had my doubts
22:46: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: and one happend to nark me out to one of you veterans, members advisors ..whatever.. then what
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: I just have a hard time with the mentality that if I heal them  they are just going to go kill someone or many ..
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Tough issue
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: .. then again, we got a tough job
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: This is actully a moral question, "do I defend myself?"
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: it could be cause of me
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: If you feel bad about it dont do it
22:47: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I disagree.. My immediate answer is - yes - we heal people with PvP titles
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: well so far I have conciously overlooked them.. it was just something I wanted to touch base on
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: It doesn't matter how or why they got their title
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: But I would not force anyone who does not want to heal a killer...
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff:  a life is a life.........
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes it is
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: that is true
22:48: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: As long as we don't heal them to benefit them in PvP combat
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: so if a rookie comes and ask for IC?
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Then you give him IC
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: and he runs of to the arena....
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The fact of the matter is that sooner rather than later there will be a big war here on RubiKa somewhere
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: well those I have seen never needed healing anyway.. or they wouldnt bother asking me ..but since learning ..I have a hard time with that
22:49: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Sadly, it is most likely gonna be in a neutral area
22:50: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Personally I tend to take on my shades and just look at the moment
22:50: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: During that war, a lot of people are gonna gain PvP titles - whether they want it or not
22:50: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes
22:50: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: That's when our job gets difficult
22:50: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: understood..but right now they have an option
22:51: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: in 90% of the cases, yes
22:51: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: So I also find pvp titles questionable
22:51: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: as long as in not direct fight I heal people, otherwise I could not establish the fieldhospitals
22:52: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ok... anything more on the list?
22:52: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: But for what it's worth - if anyone sends me a /tell and complains that one of our doctors didnt heal them because of their title, I won't take any action on that
22:52: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I have seen attacks on MMD and from both sides, that town has been both under omni and clan control... and once I have been there providing our services on the outskirts of the fights
22:52: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: The only exception is in hunting teams or missions
22:52: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: there are 2 more things
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Shall we go on?
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Lux?
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: yes, but quickly, its getting late....
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: yeah sure im done
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: ok
22:53: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok, i just wanted to know peoples thoughts about a guild bot
22:54: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i guess most of you are aware of the Yalmbot, the Neutbot, the Helpbot ets
22:54: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think its great, but how are we going to pay for it?
22:54: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Not sure.. That could quickly work against us
22:54: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: It isnt that hard to create one yourself
22:55: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: One idea I had was to have one where people could request our services through
22:55: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: docbot..... hehe
22:55: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: And if 1200 people send a request for a doctor? :)
22:55: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: Another idea could be to make it a Servicebot for all guilds to use
22:56: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: That sounds like a better idea
22:56: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: you can filter it, there could be ways we could register our selves as being avaliable
22:56: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: In any case, it could be a good idea to claim the name Docbot before someone else does
22:56: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: i dont think overwhelming repsonce would be a problem
22:56: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yepp
22:57: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: but as I understand, we need a nec account for the bot?
22:57: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ... new....
22:57: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: but what I wanted to ask also was how we can solve the cost...
22:57: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes thats the main problem, someone. most likely me have to have 2 accounts
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: one for the bot and one to play
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Tricky one.. But I wouldn't elaborate on that until we have something tangible anyway
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: .... and a computer running some prog?
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: and personally im not willing to pay that much
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: computer i can support with
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I can also fo the hacking and coding
22:58: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: It would be better if you created a dummy character called Docbot for now just to hold the name while we actually decide if this is a usable idea or not
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: yes
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: And I will do some tests as well to see how it works
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: good.....
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: I will try to take both servicebot and docbot
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: maybe healbot as well
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ok
22:59: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Guildbot
23:00: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: sorry to rush you.... ready?
23:00: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I am
23:00: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Team?
23:00: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: one more, Electronix had someting about happeings
23:01: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think it was me?
23:01: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I think it was prez
23:01: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: you? both maybe?
23:01: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok the prez
23:02: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: Very short..... feel fre to think of happenings, and arrange them.... end
23:02: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: And last........
23:02: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: hihi
23:02: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: .... today we have talked for nearly 2h.....
23:02: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ohyea.. I have one tiny little thing too (10 seconds the most)
23:03: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: lol
23:03: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: I think that a lot of the discussions that we have held today, could at least be prepared on the forum....
23:03: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: ... shoot electronix
23:04: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I think it is time to promote Lux to member..
23:04: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: aah thats true
23:04: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: You do the honur Electronix
23:04: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Uhm.. I'll tryu
23:04: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: try, even
23:05: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: Thank you all..
23:05: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Ehey.. it worked :)
23:05: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: cool
23:05: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: You've been doing some great work already Lux, so it was about time
23:06: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: back to the forum, before we end..........
23:06: [The Healing Hands] Luxurea: Well nothing for nothing I really need to thank Ani and Electronix for all their help.
23:06: [The Healing Hands] Animahdoc: np my work
23:07: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: my suggestion is to use it more, prepare questions ther, discuss things etc, and then these weekly meetings could be a little shorter.........
23:07: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Aye
23:07: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Hey.. I even have another little 10 second thing ;)
23:07: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: 5 second
23:07: [The Healing Hands] Docpoff: hehe.... shoot
23:08: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: I will probably be inviting a new member one of these days - Kitrell. She's a doctor in her 20s
23:08: [The Healing Hands] Electronix4: Just so you are familiar with the name
23:08: [The Healing Hands] Teamdoc: ok